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"Leading to War" begins and ends with a very few words of text on the screen. The rest is clips of public statements made by the Bush cabal, between September 11, 2001, and March 19, 2003. There is some little-known footage included, and the sequence of the clips tells a coherent and compelling story.

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    Radiofreeeuropa6 months ago

    Someone whose knowledge was limited to this film would have no way of knowing that many of the statements made in it were lies. There's no indication that the invasion of Iraq was being planned prior to 911. There's no indication that the attack was secretly underway prior to March 19, 2003. When Bush refers to an IAEA report that didn't exist, we don't necessarily know that. When several of the film's protagonists make claims about "weapons of mass destruction" and ties between Iraq and al Qaeda, we are not informed that they knew they were lying. Claims about aluminum tubes, Prague meetings, uranium purchases, training of al Qaeda in Iraq, mobile production facilities, and even Bush's pretense that he was trying to avoid war, are allowed to stand or fall without commentary.

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      Radiofreeeuropa6 months ago

      Text at the end of the film informs us that these claims were not true, but not that they were known at the time to be untrue, as of course they were. Commentary missing from the film is provided on the website at http://www.leadingtowar.com Additional evidence is collected at http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/keydocuments

      The film closes with some text indicating, among other things, that no WMDs were ever found, that the occupation has been costly, etc. These claims are all crafted to avoid any possible objections, to the point in some cases of erring wildly on the side of war supporters. When every serious study done finds over 1 million Iraqi deaths, this film grotesquely puts the count at 100,000.

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      donald515 months, 4 weeks ago

      Radio, perhaps Cheney classified his Energy meeting minutes with the likes of Ken Lay because they came up with the need to take down an oil rich Arab state and the Taliban had already dinied a pipeline across Afghanistan!

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        rimbaud5 months, 4 weeks ago

        "Be the change you want to see in the world"

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          rimbaud5 months, 4 weeks ago

          We were CERTAIN Saddam had WMDs because we, and the Europeans, sold them to him, and he DID use them, against the Iranians, and against his own people. That's why, when the weapons inspectors came up empty-handed, we (Democrats, as well as Republicans) could not believe them. Even after Saddam sent the reams of documents to Washington on the disposition of his weapons, we could not trust him. As he told Dan Rather, there was nothing he could do to stop the US attack. The war was a foregone conclusion

          http://www.ericblumrich.com/thanks.html

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          rimbaud5 months, 4 weeks ago

          The Iraqis were our proxy in their war against Iran. Iran stood alone. The Russians, who were still also allied with Iraq, did not help Iran. So, you can bet the Iranians are involved in Iraq: they have a huge stake in the outcome of their close neighbor. Who are we to say they should not be involved? Their memory of their long and costly war with Iraq in still a fresh wound. But they want to be friends? Well, we got rid of Saddam for them and we got rid of the Taleban for them in Afghanistan, with the cooperation of their allies, the Northern Alliance. They intercept AlQaeda on their way to Iraq from Pakistan and Afghanistan and they offer rebuilding aid to Iraq (which we have begged the Europeans to do). Maybe we are just in competition with them for the same ends.

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            Radiofreeeuropa5 months, 4 weeks ago

            So get out your popcorn, It's about 70 minutes long.

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              Candida5 months, 4 weeks ago

              It's worth it though.

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              cowboygrandpa5 months, 4 weeks ago

              Rfe:

              I will have to finish watching it later.

              It sickens me to see some cheering for the death of others because of lies. Been there done that. It hasn't changed except the year and locations.

              One day if we don't learn it will be us who are crying about the war and how unfair it is. It will be the war of the government on it's own people. It's already started.

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                ETproductions5 months, 4 weeks ago

                WMD = Weapons of Mass Delusion; i.e., the New Repugnicans.

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                Candida5 months, 4 weeks ago

                cowboygrandpa: "I will have to finish watching it later."

                Make sure you do. In segments 3&4, a reporter asks a question about Vietnam. I think you'll like it.

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                Radiofreeeuropa5 months, 4 weeks ago

                Watching this film, we are reminded that:

                Iraq told the world truthfully in 2002 and 2003 that it had no WMDs, the world was broadly opposed to a U.S. attack on Iraq, Iraq was willing to sit down and talk, but the United States was not, Cheney didn't want inspectors in Iraq,Cheney and his cronies predicted joyful throngs greeting "liberators", Scott Ritter rejected the WMD lies and made it onto television doing so, Bush pushed the claim that Iraq could attack us within 45 minutes, Bush told us Iraq could attack us with unmanned aerial vehicles, all of these people made their assertions about WMDs repeatedly and with absolute certainty.

                Bush and Rice said we risked waking up to a "mushroom cloud" if we didn't attack Iraq, Iraq cooperated with inspectors,

                most nations of the world and huge crowds of people around the world opposed an attack on Iraq,

                Rumsfeld swore the whole thing would cost under $50 billion,

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                  Radiofreeeuropa5 months, 4 weeks ago

                  Bush said we should attack Iraq because Saddam Hussein used torture: "If this is not evil," said Bush (who was already torturing people himself), "then evil has no meaning,"

                  the goal Bush said he had in launching an aggressive war was "a free and peaceful Iraq...an inspiring example of freedom for other nations in the region," and

                  most nations in the world saw no imminent threat from Iraq, and the United Nations refused to support an aggressive attack by the United States, which tried very hard to win U.N. approval but then attacked without it.

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                  Candida5 months, 4 weeks ago

                  Radiofreeeuropa: "Bush and Rice said we risked waking up to a "mushroom cloud" if we didn't attack Iraq"

                  Oh, yes, those famous mushroom clouds. This is what the UN inspectors reported almost two full weeks before the invasion:

                  7 March 2003 | New York, USA

                  Statement to the United Nations Security Council

                  The Status of Nuclear Inspections in Iraq: An Update

                  by IAEA Director General Dr. Mohamed ElBaradei

                  "Based on available evidence, the IAEA team has concluded that Iraq's efforts to import these aluminium tubes were not likely to have been related to the manufacture of centrifuges and, moreover, that it was highly unlikely that Iraq could have achieved the considerable re-design needed to use them in a revived centrifuge programme. However, this issue will continue to be scrutinized and investigated."

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                Amazing15 months, 4 weeks ago

                For this alone Bush should be impeached. Then indicted and imprisoned. Thank you RFE, I hope this gets the play it deserves.

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                  OnionHead5 months, 4 weeks ago

                  And whatever happened to Bin Laden?

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                    Spadecaller5 months, 4 weeks ago

                    "Whatever happened to Bin Laden?"

                    Bin Laden was an old business associate of George Bush Sr. and a friend of the Bush family. The Bin Ladens helped George Junior with his first oil deal. In addition, Bin Laden did business with the Carlyle Group of which George Bush Sr. was the principle executive.

                    Do you really think it was an accident that Bin Laden got away when we had him trapped? Do you really believe that with George junior's close ties with the "royal family" in Saudi Arabia, he would do anything to disrupt those relationships? Not a chance in hell! Follow the money and you can follow the crimes against humanity.

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                    djn3nunez35 months, 4 weeks ago

                    It's like watching the old SNL skit or whatever of "The Liar's Club"

                    Sadly hundreds of thousands of people have died as the results of this unchallenged media campaign. Still watching....

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                      dunkirk5 months, 4 weeks ago

                      ts quiteinteresting to note that to get impeached a President need only have a bj yet lies to engage in a war is deemed a redeeming trait. Republicans have some funny notions about right an wrong.

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                        donald515 months, 4 weeks ago

                        why only the Repug administrations have convicted fellons ot the cabinet level in three different administrations in recent times: watergate, Iran Contra and now Plamegate!

                        18 of 22 Congressmen on the most corrupt CREW list are Repugs with the only senators being 4 Repugs!

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                        Radiofreeeuropa5 months, 4 weeks ago

                        Remarkable series of lying liars, and frankly the press looks much better in this film than they really performed. As we focus on "success" of recent strategies (mostly joining in with militias who previously were enemies). Let us not forget that we have no business whatsoever being there in the first place. That anyone who defends such lies as documented in this film, is utterly and completely incapable of judging right from wrong.

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                          Candida5 months, 4 weeks ago

                          Yes, the press looks definitely good in this video. I've been thinking why they didn't look good in reality, and came up with at least three reasons:

                          This was a selection, and obviously the best questions from the perspective of the producers were included.

                          They asked good questions, but got no real answers, so what could they really report? Each other's questions? I've noticed that Jamie McIntyre looked definitely troubled after he got a non-response to his question.

                          Even if they had a good report to take to their stations and papers, it had to pass through some filters before it got on the airwaves or on paper.

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                          hdthehn5 months, 4 weeks ago

                          Outstanding post RFE. Thanks.

                          I hope for accountability: trials, convictions and punnishment.

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                            globalwarmer5 months, 4 weeks ago

                            Its just as clear now as it was then, we were going into Iraq no matter what the inspectors found.

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                              donald515 months, 4 weeks ago

                              why that marine Major and inpector for the UN said Dumya was a liar right from the start!

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                              icono15 months, 4 weeks ago

                              The road to war was paved with false propaganda posing as good intentions.

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                                donald515 months, 4 weeks ago

                                Amazing that both Dumya and Cheney say to this day there was WMD and links to Al Qaeda! Got to keep their deceived Faux Fox Facts base... all 19% of them who would have supported Hitler too!

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                                  Candida5 months, 4 weeks ago

                                  Only Cheney does. Bush admitted that there was no WMD and no link to al Quaeda on 60 Minutes on January 14, 2007.

                                  "PELLEY: You know better than I do that many Americans feel that your administration has not been straight with the country, has not been honest. To those people you say what?

                                  BUSH: On what issue?

                                  PELLEY: Well, sir . . .

                                  BUSH: Like the weapons of mass destruction?

                                  PELLEY: No weapons of mass destruction.

                                  BUSH: Yeah.

                                  PELLEY: No credible connection between 9/11 and Iraq.

                                  BUSH: Yeah.

                                  PELLEY: The Office of Management and Budget said this war would cost somewhere between $50 billion and $60 billion and now we're over 400.

                                  BUSH: I gotcha. I gotcha. I gotcha.

                                  PELLEY: The perception, sir, more than any one of those points, is that the administration has not been straight with . . ."

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                                getreal15 months, 4 weeks ago

                                Don't we just love the way our politicians and leaders put big money over the survival of the American People. We elected these people to help keep our country strong and they have done the opposite for the people of this nation and this world. It is no longer a question of change but to get them out of the way to straighten things out. We are supposed to be a peace loving nation, not a bunch of tyrants.

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                                  annoDomini5 months, 3 weeks ago

                                  There is some hope for us. On 2-Oct-2002 Barack Obama attended an anti-war rally in Chicago and addressed the crowd with these words:

                                  "I don't oppose all wars. ... What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other arm-chair, weekend warriors in this Administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne. What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income."

                                  Were truer words spoken by anyone else?

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                                    annoDomini5 months, 3 weeks ago

                                    Barack Obama continued with these words:

                                    "I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda."

                                    Is there anyone who doesn't now recognize how insightful Sen. Obama was?

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